BLUE RIDGE
GROTTO of the NSS WA
Monthly Meeting Minutes – Jersey Lily’s Salem, VA
February 18, 2022
Attendance:
Marian McConnell – Chair Dave Socky -
Treasurer Mary Sue
Socky – Secretary
Lauren Appel Trish
Geiger Nick
Schmalenberger
Susan Burr Karen
Kastning Cyndi
Hutchison
Doug Feller *Pat Banks *Beth
Banks
Lynn Ott *Kelly
Perkins *Dr.
Tina Salowey
(*
denotes guest)
Meeting called to order
6:40p by Chair Marian McConnell.
Introductions were made,
new folks welcomed
Trip reports:
1/15/2022: Nick Schmalenberger visited his parents in
California, and took them to Clay Cave, Napa Co. CA. Clay Cave formed in an old volcanic
ash deposit – so old, the ash had weathered to clay. Erosional
formation of the cave happened after the ash deposit became clay. Parts of Clay Cave are so narrow that you must
walk sideways to get through. Nick also
found an old magazine, Mercator’s World, Nov-Dec 2000 in his parent’s collection. It contained a very interesting article by Walter Carl
Hartwig, "Under Brazil: Mapping the Caves of Ancient Amazonia.”
1/22: Greenbrier
Poor Farm Cave, WV, grotto trip. Doug Feller, Susan Burr, Lauren Appel, Jeff Huffman,
Larry Manning, Kelly Perkins, Summer Skye (Ward). The field we had to drive through to park was
a sheet of snow/ice. Luckily, everyone had an all-wheel or 4-wheel drive
vehicle. It was also VERY cold, so we quickly changed & headed down to the
entrance. The entrance was very pretty with snow covered frozen branches &
ice stalagmites & stalactites as you climbed down into the cave.
We chose to do the right side of the cave first, with the
objective of going to the formation room in the back. It was a routine trip for
the most part. The one climb up near the stream still posed an issue for some
of us shorter people. Also, the area in the back to get to the climb up to the
formation room was a little trickier than before. We all made it safely &
had a good time taking lots of pictures of the beautiful formations. After heading out & making it down the
drop back at the stream, we all decided to explore down the stream a ways. Then
we headed back to the entrance area.
Next, we did the left side of the cave. In the back of that
section, we went across the large flowstone & explored back there for a
bit. Then everyone but Susan Burr headed out the upper passage & Susan stayed
below to try to get pictures of them from below. Once everyone was down, we
headed back to the cars & then over to the bowling alley to eat.
1/22:
McClung Cave, WV. Participants included David Socky, Bob Alderson, and Bill
Koerschner on Team 1 and Greg Springer, Seth Rogers, and Brandon Sass on Team
2, and Paul Walko, Eli Meyers, and Erik Nieman on team 3, and finally, Nick
Socky and Matt Vest on team 4. Bob, Bill, and I did 2 nail climbs in Freeman
Ave which resulted in 150 feet of new cave and then we surveyed the stream
passage beneath Freeman Ave, most of which had a distinct ceiling. Nick and
Matt Vest worked on the bolt climb in Beetle Run Room. Greg and his two new
cavers did one upper tube in Chocolate Ave. Paul Walko and team surveyed in the
First Breakdown and in the Beetle Run Auxiliary passage.
1/29:
McClung Cave, WV. Participants included David Socky and Bob Alderson. On Saturday
(1/29), Bob Alderson and I got into the Waterfall Room at the end of Musser’s
Mess in McClung Cave. It took a little digging to get through the tight spot,
but we finally got into the large breakdown room. We also surveyed another
large upper-level breakdown area before the Waterfall Room. In all, we netted
410 feet of new cave for the system since the breakdown rooms had not been
surveyed before (only sketched).
2/2: Nick
Schmalenberger, Rolland Moore, and Martin DiLeggi continue to work on their Botetourt
Co. VA streambed dig. They have
opened it up to a vertical, free-climbable pitch. There is a sinkhole, passage,
but it gets filled up with rocks and debris with every rain. They haven’t given up hope yet.
2/3:
Lowmoor Cave, VA. Participants included David Socky, Tom Malabad. Katarina Ficco,
Andrea Futrell, Rick Reynolds, Wil Orndorff, and Zenah Orndorff. Bat count day in Lowmoor Cave, VA. It was
raining so we parked in the Sofa section of the mine. We hiked through the mine
to where the bat cave section was that we had been surveying on. We found
several large clusters (30 to 50) of bats. Wil and Zenah searched the whole
mine for bats while the rest of us went to the cave. Tom Malabad and Dave Socky
went to the back section of the cave while Andrea, Katarina, and Rick checked
the front end of the cave. It was a successful bat count.
2/5: Carson Leatherland and his dad visited Marian and Dan
McConnell and took a look at the Catawba Murder Hole entrance pit. They had a nice visit. The Leatherland family owns Cow Cave, Botetourt
Co VA. BRG needs to reschedule a
survey of their cave.
2/5:
McClung Cave, WV. Participants included David Socky, Brian Williams, and Bob
Alderson. We had a really good survey in McClung Cave in the Seven Fingers
area. Our first goal was to finish off a lead we had left late last year which
was expected to be only a hundred feet or so. We ended up spending all day in
that lead, surveying a little over 500 feet, most of which added to the length
of the cave. We were stopped by 30-foot-high dome with a good lead 20 feet up.
It was a productive 11-hour trip.
2/12:
McClung Cave, WV. Participants included David Socky, Bill Koerschner, David
Smallwood, and Mary Hicks. The other team-Greg Springer, Sydney Hansen, and
Chris Coates. Went to the Seven Fingers proper. Took a right up Freeman Ave
after Bat Bone Crawl, then a left up the trunk passage which is the access to
Seven Fingers. Then a right down the DPI survey that Nikki and I did a while
back. We did a leapfrog survey. Greg and team started at the end of the DPI
survey at station 34 while our team went to the next intersection and went
right. We surveyed past the next left lead, but then went to the left at the
next intersection. It got climby, tight, and crawly.
We didn't reach the end. There is still lots to do. Greg’s team got 1114 feet
of survey. We surveyed 659 feet.
2/14: Catawba
Murder Hole VA. Marian McConnell
reports … we had 3 visitors - Jason Johnson, Roanoke City Deputy Sheriff (new
to the area) and his sons Tristan and Kennan. Tristan and Kennan were going to
try to come to our February BRG meeting but didn't show. They also stayed to
watch the movie.
UPCOMING TRIPS
Tomorrow Sat. 2/19/2022: BRG trip to Rapp’s Cave, WV. Sign up with Susan Burr.
Next Month’s Trip – To be
announced.
BUSINESS MEETING
2/18/2022 BRG Treasury
Report – Dave Socky, Treasurer
Fund
Amounts
$ 0.00 Cave
Bucks
$ 0.00 Conservation
Fund
$
104.12 Equipment Fund
$ 4252.64 General Fund
$ 4356.76 Total Funds
*Cave Bucks: All Cave Bucks donations are voluntary; funds
go to cave conservation programs.
Committees:
Newsletter – Another successful DUMP.
Membership – Susan Burr is handing out BRG membership
packets. Any left will be mailed to BRG
members.
ROCKS – need to get
out and survey Cow Cave for the Leatherland family.
S&T - Dan will
have shoulder replacement in March; he will have a long recovery after that.
Membership Proposals: none** (see last page).
Old Business:
·
Donation to CaveSim in memory of John Fox was
received. Dave Jackson says Thank You.
·
The Caverns at Natural Bridge, VA. Susan Burr reported that she had 12-15
volunteers ready to help clean the cave, but NEVER HEARD BACK from the Caverns
Manager, despite sending numerous emails and phone calls. So, cleanup has been cancelled.
·
Karen Kastning and other NRVG folks who have offered
to help Betty Jones with moving John Fox’s office from the 3rd floor
of their house to the basement. Other
stuff has been discarded. Much of John
Fox’s cave belongings are being stored at Karen Kastning’s
place. Betty wants John’s caving stuff
to go to cavers. Karen brought some of
John’s cave stuff to the BRG meeting, mostly packs and gloves, and encouraged
folks to take it.
·
Karen Kastning brought John Fox’s copy of the NSS 75th
Diamond Jubilee book – it went home with Lynn Ott.
New
Business
·
The contract has been signed! MAR/VAR, May 20-22, 2022, Grand Caverns,
Grottoes, VA. Look for registration
info soon.
·
Area Show Cave cleanups – Grand Spring Cleaning has
been cancelled. VAR is looking into other conservation projects. Look for updates in emails and in the DUMP.
·
BRG Call-down Rescue List: Although Blacksburg Cave Rescue Group (BCRG)
is responding to cave rescue calls, keeping BRG rescue info up-to-date helps
them. Currently, our “mini” list is out
of date and only has three contacts.
o
Would anyone consider volunteering to be on the BRG
Call-Down List? (People were
very good at recommending others for the list.)
o
NOTE: People ‘on the mini list’ would be the first to
be contacted by NCRC, BCRG, or EMS for a cave rescue, and would be responsible
for “alerting” BRG folks that a cave rescue was in progress, and would they be
willing to respond.
o
Ideally, a person on this “mini list” no longer “responds”
or helps rescue efforts underground – but, using a BRG rescue call-down list and a phone, they can
contact and send able BRG rescue volunteers directly to the rescue site, and
coordinate with BCRG, NCRC and other rescue groups.
·
Vote For Your FAVORITE FIVE!!! Vote well and vote often! Voting ends April 1.
Announcements
·
Please sign the
sympathy card for Cliff Lindsay’s family.
Cliff died 1/10/2022.
·
Please sign the
Thank You card for Al Stewart, who generously donated his cave book collection
for auction, with the proceeds going to BRG.
·
Grotto
Get-together at Keith & Lisa’s Catawba property 2/20/2022 is too short
notice, will be rescheduled.
·
The Cricket Maze
Cave 2022 Open House has been cancelled. They will try again next year.
·
Spring
Restoration @ Grand Caverns Apr. 22-24 will not happen this year. Other venues are being explored.
·
CaveSim https://www.cavesim.com/ is coming to
VA and MD this fall! More info soon.
·
Pandemic Caving – let’s be healthy going
underground. Rules have been posted in
the DUMP.
·
The upper entrance to Boar Hole, WV, is very
closed. Use the Radio/Culvert entrance
on Carroll Bassett’s property instead!
·
Winter closure for bat caves in West Virginia is Sept. 1- May 15.
·
Winter closure for bat caves in Virginia is Oct. 15 – Apr. 15.
Please respect all
cave closures.
Calendar 2022:
·
NEW- Feb 26. Is rescheduled date for Virginia Cave
Board Meeting, 11a, EnGeo building at JMU in
Harrisonburg VA.
·
Mar 18 BRG meeting.
·
Apr. 15 BRG
meeting.
·
Apr 22-24 Grand Caverns VAR Spring Restoration
will be someplace. Contact Meredith
Weberg.
·
Apr 30: Silers Cave Open House. Contact Jim McConkey for more information.
·
May 20-22, 2022 –
Spring VAR/MAR, @ Grand Caverns (rescheduled)
·
June 5-11 Virginia Cave Week.
·
June 13-17, 2022
– NSS Convention, Rapid City SD.
·
Jul 16- 21, 2022
– NEW! NCRC National Weeklong, which will be held in Covington,
VA.
Meeting adjourned 7:33p, followed by Guest Speaker, Dr. Tina Salowey
(Hollins U.) on “the Karst and Geology of Greece, and the importance of
caves to the ancient Greeks and Mythology.” Excellent, informative program!
Cold Beer!
Minutes
Submitted by
Mary Sue Socky, Secretary
** After the BRG meeting ended, Pat Banks approached Mary Sue Socky and asked about joining BRG. In the 1960’s, Pat attended Roanoke Technical College/Western Virginia Community College (WVCC) and was a student of Al Stewart. Pat Banks was part of the Virginia Western Community College Cave Club (VWCCCC), an offshoot of UVA Grotto. In the Constitution and Bylaws of the Blue Ridge Grotto, Article IV, Membership, it states: Membership in this Grotto shall be granted to those who are interested in speleology. Members of the Virginia Western Community College Cave Club (WVCCCC) are invited to participate and join the Grotto now and in the future.
Wow, what to do? This is a new one! As BRG membership Chair, I instructed Pat to:
1) Write a short letter telling us of his interest in caving, going caving with Al Stewart and WVCCC in the 1960’s, and request membership in Blue Ridge Grotto.
2) Fill out and sign the “BRG Membership Agreement” form and pay dues.
3) Mary Sue Socky will be Pat Banks’ sponsor.
4) Mary Sue Socky recommends that Pat need not to have to meet the “caving requirements” since Pat already suffered on the old weekend cave trips to Unthanks Cave, Gilley Cave, and others with Al Stewart in the 1960’s. Pat has shared many of his old photos to authenticate aforementioned suffering.
5) We will bring up Pat’s membership at the March meeting, and either vote him in at that time (suggested) , or make him wait until April 2022 for his membership vote.
NOTE: Pat and Beth Banks live in NC; they occasionally visit Boones Mill/Roanoke to see their kids and grandkids and attend BRG meetings.