Blue Ridge Grotto of the NSS
MEETING MINUTES
April 19, 2013 - 7:30p – Vinton Firehouse
Meeting began 7:38p
Attendance:
Dave Socky –Vice Pat Sims Doug Feller Marian McConnell –
Chair
Mary Sue Socky – Sec. Dusty Gulden Nicole Gulden Stephanie
Petri – Treas.
Jen Perdue Carl Cornett Susan Burr Cyndi Hutchison
David Rose Zan Rose *Heather Bostic *Bob
Gulden
*Shawn Daugherty
*
denotes guest.
Trip Reports:
3/16: BRG went cave
hunting and ridge walking at Blue Ridge
Vineyards. David Socky, Stephanie Petri, Trish Geiger, Susan Burr, Pat
Sims, Thomas Mitchell, Carl Cornett, Doug Feller, Marian McConnell chose a nice
day for ridge walking. They checked out 6 caves, 2 of which might be new ones.
The first two had been visited before. The two on the ridge may be new ones,
and for the last two, one was a stream insurgence of about 100 feet long and
was called Moonshiners Cave by the landowner. The other was a 20 foot
pit just above the insurgence. From the VSS, Dave found that 4 of the 6 caves
are known. Holiday Hole is Glenn Aerie Pit, the Sink hole dig is Glenn
Aerie Sink Cave, Moonshiners Cave is Glenn Aerie Cave, and Leprechaun
Hole is No Rope Cave. St Paddy's Pit is new. There was no
mention of the short pit above Moonshiners Cave. All the 'Glenn Aerie' Caves
and 'No Rope Cave' had maps all done by Bob Alderson.
3/16:
Mary Sue Socky and Heather Bostic drove up to Melrose Caverns, VA for
continuing conservation work.
3/23: Susan Burr, Stephanie Petri, Adam Doriss, Ben Hester,
Heather Bostic, Ihab Al Sadoon, Mike Meador and David Tudge went to Porter
Cave, Bath Co. VA. The entrance was almost blocked by a giant downed tree,
but they did get the gate open. They went through the Keyhole to the Big Room
and back out, checked out the passages in the Cafeteria, up to the Big Slit,
and everyone explored around Grand Avenue. Great beginner trip!
3/30: Marian McConnell, Carl Cornett and Ivy Lidstone took a
Roanoke City Parks & Rec group to Island Ford Cave, VA. The cave was
very clean, no trash to remove.
3/30: Dave Socky, Bob Alderson, Joe Calderone and Matt Tomlinson
had a 17 ½ hour survey trip in the Worm Hole section and Big Dork area of Gap
Cave, Lee Co. VA. They surveyed 371 feet of passage, and spent 17.35 hours
underground. Joe Zokaites was not feeling well, so he stayed topside.
3/30: Lots of cavers met for the Grand Caverns Easter
Restoration. Meredith Weberg, VAR Conservation co-chair had us doing all
sorts of things, from hauling and spreading gravel in the cave (which Stephanie
Petri did for a few hours) to weeding flowerbeds, working with caverns staff to
update equipment, treating algae around lights in the cave, and feeding workers
a nice lunch. Dinner was catered by Battarbee’s. Pretty day, we got lots
accomplished.
4/12: Marian McConnell and Mary Sue Socky visited Liberty High
School, Bedford Co. VA for a school-wide Earth Day Celebration. They had the Caving
and Bats educational boards and pamphlets on display, talked about the
importance of caves, groundwater, bats and WNS. Marian brought her Murder
Hole books, and sang some of her cave songs, too. They reached one
thousand people, (students and faculty) in one day!
4/13: Pat Sims, Bob Alderson and Susan Burr met Rick Lambert,
Phil Lucas and Mark Hodge to clear and mark the new trail to Breathing Cave for
2013. After that, Mark, Susan, Bob and Pat took a tour of Helectite Cave, VA,
to the Bullfrog Room.
4/13: Dave Socky,
Brian Williams, Stephanie Petri did another fun trip into the wet part of Cove
Creek and near the Six Foot Waterfall in Maxwelton Cave, WV. Wetsuits
were definitely needed, as they had to lie in the water to take some of the
shots. They pushed another low, wet crawl-way going downstream. It was very
muddy and slippery with some spots as low as 9.5 inches. Dave reported “I
finally got to a place in the stream which had about 6 inches of air space, but
after 6 feet it dropped down to about 3 inches of air space with a total
passage height of a foot. It continued that way for at least 30 to 40 feet
until I couldn't see any further. I decided against going in there”. When they
got back to station XZE6 side lead, the water coming out was muddy. “As we
watched, the water cleared up. This is pretty good evidence that the two crawls
connect”. Stephanie did crawl up the side lead at XZE6 for about 20 feet and
reported that it continued as a belly crawl in water. They were underground for
9 hours and surveyed 260’ of passage. (Sounds like fun, only different)
Upcoming Trips:
·
4/19: BRG trip planned to Poor Farm Cave, Greenbrier Co. WV.
Pat Sims is leader.
·
5/18: There will
be many cave trips offered at Spring VAR.
Go caving!
·
6/22: possible trip to Lightner Entrance of McClungs Cave, WV
(instead of Steele’s Cave, WV). Dave Socky is leader.
Program: a nice slide show of Stephanie Petri &
Brian William’s recent April visit to the Florida
Cave Cavort. There ARE semi-dry
caves in Florida!
BUSINESS
MEETING
TREASURER’S
REPORT (Stephanie
Petri):
4/19/2013 Balance Sheet
Petty Cash 110.00
General Fund 3,966.97
Conservation 266.59
Equipment 235.36
Cave Bucks 174.30
TOTAL
BALANCE: $4,753.23
NEWSLETTER – The
selected covers from the 2012 CARBIDE DUMP have been sent in to the NSS Cover
Art Salon. Thanks for the artwork and
articles! Extra hardcopies of the DUMP are available at meetings.
MEMBERSHIP – membership
lists are available at meetings. Bring
folks interested in caving to the BRG meetings.
ROCKS –the
info from the Vineyard Caves has been sent to the VSS. Marian has heard nothing from the owners of
Henderson Cave. Brian Williams wants to
finish surveying Turtle Shell Cave.
SAFETY
& TECHNIQUES – Dan will set up vertical sessions at
Catawba Murder Hole if people want to practice.
MEMBERSHIP
PROPOSALS – Ivy Lidstone, sponsored by Carl Cornett, was voted in as BRG’s
newest member.
Welcome, Ivy!
OLD BUSINESS:
·
Dixie Caverns
Cleanup – no word from Dixie. Mary Sue
Socky will inquire.
·
Three new
energizer lights were purchased as “grotto gear” to replace worn out lights.
·
BRG worked with
VSS to upgrade the parking lot and trail to Breathing Cave, VA. BRG agreed to pay for the markers, paint, and
($15 new) materials for the waiver box. (Approved this meeting). We need to ‘settle up’ with Rick
Lambert.
·
BRG “night at the
movies” – “The Croods” – is a GO, scheduled for this Sunday 4/21/13. If it is not in the movie theater, then we
will rent it and watch it at someone’s house.
·
Requests for cave
presentations continue. Mary Sue and
Marian have and will be talking with school groups, scouts, and libraries in
Franklin Co.
NEW
BUSINESS:
·
Dave Socky has
made updates to the BRG webpage – yay!
Please let Dave know what changes, additions you would like to see on
the webpage.
·
Mary Sue Socky
brought up possible improvements to the BRG Beginner Cave Orientation
program. Several other grottos have
an “orientation meeting” and require all new interested people to attend before
they ever go caving. After discussion,
it was decided to keep things as they currently are with BRG – invite
folks to meetings, have them sign up for trips, have a sponsor, bring required
gear, Go Caving.
·
Porter’s Tree: Susan Burr
brought up the downed tree over the entrance to Porter Cave, and asked if BRG
would want to make an offer to the landowner to cut it up, remove other downed
trees in the Porter Cave sinkhole and trail?
BRG voted YES. Susan will make
inquiry.
·
NSS
Fundraising – Susan Burr received a
letter from the NSS, requesting money from BRG to help pay off the new NSS
headquarters. The letter says that the
NSS currently has 62% of their goal to pay off the new mortgage. What do they want from BRG – a one-time
donation, or monthly payments?
Discussion ensued. Nicole Gulden
pointed out that the “monthly pledge” gets expensive. TABLED, until more can be learned.
·
BRG Cave Trip
Guidelines – (orig. written 1990,
have been revised from time to time.) Good basic document, needs updating,
especially the “grotto gear” section (we no longer use carbide!). The current ‘rules for use’, ‘sanctioned vs.
non-sanctioned trips’, are confusing.
Motion (by Pat Sims, seconded by
Susan Burr) “ Any BRG member can request to check out gear on a first-come,
first serve basis, but BRG trips have priority to use the gear”. Motion passed.
Motion (by Pat Sims, seconded by
Susan Burr) “Participants who cannot attend a BRG meeting may still sign up for
the cave trip, at the discretion of the trip leader”. Motion Passed.
Further changes to the Cave Trip
Guidelines were TABLED until the next meeting.
Bring proposals to the June meeting.
ANNOUNCEMENTS,
MAIL BAG, ETC.
·
NEW WNS Decon
protocols – HOT water (122 F) for 20 min.
will kill WNS spores
·
Spring VAR is now May 17-19, 2013, @ Camp Buckskin, near Marlinton, WV. Hosted by Tri-State Grotto.
·
NO May 17 BRG
meeting. Go to Spring VAR instead!
·
A pissed off
landowner has closed his caves to VAR.
More to come at VAR meeting.
·
Spring MAR has
moved its date to May 4-5, 2013 so it will not conflict with Spring VAR.
·
River Rock Climbing Wall opened in March 2013.
It is small, nice, with reasonable rates.
Perhaps BRG can rent it for a vertical training session
·
NSS Convention 2013 will be in Shippensburg, PA, Aug
5-9, 2013. Forms on desk. Mail in your registration with a check today to save the NSS money.
·
MURDER HOLE book by Marian McConnell is available and is selling
like hotcakes!
o Marian’s next book signing is 4p - 7p, June 13, 2013, Valley
View Barnes & Noble in Roanoke, VA.
o NSS members can get discount if they order MURDER
HOLE through the NSS Office.
Meeting adjourned at 8:55p.
Minutes Submitted by
Mary
Sue Socky
BRG Secretary