BLUE RIDGE GROTTO
April 20, 2007
Pat Sims Al
Stewart Susan Burr Dave
Mary Sue Socky Carl Cornett Trish Geiger Doug Feller
Grasty Todd Martin Randy Michael Cyndi Hutchison
Pat Sims was acting President
since Marian McConnell was on vacation.
Cave, VA. BRG
trip. We couldn’t find the key to Cave Spring Cave, so we went to Crossroads. Had lots of fun, visited new areas. David Socky,
Doug Feller, Rickey Shortt, Leanne Barley, Pat
Sims, Susan Burr, Cole Frantz, Carl
Cornett, Carl Alls, Hayley Grasty
4/1: Dixie Caverns Cleanup – 14 people, lots of
areas were cleaned up.
Feller, Rick Shortt, Leanne Barley,
John Layman, Cameron Hall visited New Castle Murder Hole, VA. They
talked with the owner, who is upset that the county wants him to get rid of his
many cars parked about the property.
4/7: Pat Sims, Carl Alls, Susan Burr,
Georgina (NLN) took a “quickie tour” of Grand Caverns.
4/7: Grand Caverns Easter Cleanup – it was
cold, snowing, but we accomplished:
Chipping 3 huge downed trees, creating a huge pile of mulch, filling 2
huge dumpsters with remains of a demolished building, and stripping/re-roofing
pavilion # 2. Mary
Sue Socky, Meredith Johnson, Bob
Thren, Carol Tiderman,
Craig Hindman, Jim McConkey, Scott Ellie, John Pearson,
Georgina, Carl Alls, Pat Sims, Susan
Burr and about 8 more cavers.
4/14: Maxwelton Cave, WVa.
This was a 13 ½ hr. trip, and
769.15 ft. of passage was surveyed by Dave Socky Larry Fisher, Brian Perkins,
Gordon Cole: ABS
Survey went to Long Passage south of
the Thunder Hall Passage. They didn’t finish.
Stopped at the big waterfall on the right. Exited midnight.
4/14: Maxwelton Cave WVa. Shorter trip, 70 ft. was surveyed
by Ed Saugstad, Errol Glidden,
Vanessa, Billie (NLN), Drew (NLN)
Chuck Frostick. They did a
connection to Thunder Hall from the PIG survey.
Out by 7p.
Tomorrow: 4/21 – BRG
Horizontal trip to Pocahontas Poor Farm
Cave, WVa. Pat
Sims & Susan Burr are co-leaders.
4/21 BRG Vertical trip to Millers Cove, Cave, VA. Rickey Shortt
– Spring VAR in Durbin, WVa.
-Grand Caverns project weekend
May 6 – Mary Sue Socky is leading a GS trip in IsF Cave,
assistants are needed.
May 13 –
Marian McConnell is leading a GS trip in Tawneys Cave, assistants are needed.
– NCRC Weeklong in Salem VA.
Trip – Patton Cave, WVa. Pat
Sims is leader.
cave owner said we could come on SUNDAY 5/20/2007)
“Caves of Arizona” – Peppersauce Cave, Nugget Cave,
Deadman’s Cave and an old limestone mine that Pat
Sims visited with members of an AZ Grotto.
the Day: – Come to
the 2009 ICS Conference/NSS Convention
in TX (created by Dave Socky)
General Fund $ 4916.23
Equipment Fund $ 248.00
a 6-hour power failure could not stop the DUMP
from being published on time. Editor
Dave Socky thanks people for articles, photos.
May DUMP may be a little late
‘cause Dave will be climbing Mt. Hood and Mt.
ha 61members and 5 subscribers.
Socky attended VSS meeting. VSS now owns Crossroads Cave. The
cave will remain open access; a management proposal will be worked out,
possibly between VSS/VAR/WVCC/RASS, etc.
S&T: no report – on vacation.
vacant. See Old Business
Membership Proposals –
(Carl 2), whose membership proposal was on a flashlight! Sponsored by Susan Burr,
seconded by Cyndi Hutchison. Carl’s
proposal was tabled until the May 2007 meeting.
(NOTE: Carl has joined the
NSS, # 58674 RE)
Susan Burr pointed out that Brian
Williams NSS # 43870, who is currently a BRG
subscriber, really should be a BRG
member. He wrote a letter telling us
about himself before he even moved from FLA
to VA. After a short discussion, Brian was proposed for membership (in absentia), sponsored
by Dave Socky, and seconded by Susan Burr. Brian’s
proposal was tabled until the May 2007 meeting.
Caverns map – project is in limbo (D. Socky)
Eight Rivers Environmental Group – Spring VAR will be
held very near this site.
Perry Saltpeter Cave
– Dave Socky – Botetourt Planning Commission, after 2 refusals, suddenly
approved the 40 house development to be built on property adjoining Perry
Science Fair Project. Nick Socky presented his and Elliot George’s project “Acidic Water From Below” at the regional science fair, but took no
awards. Nick and Elliot thank BRG for our help in collecting cave water samples.
NCRC Week-long – Dan
& Marian McConnell, Harold & Nancy Chrimes, Mary
Sue Socky met, chose potential cave sited for the upcoming
DIXIE CAVERNS Conservation –MSSocky- 14 volunteers
got a lot accomplished; but more needs to be done. (See new business)
New Cave Trip
Checklist – is it working? Is it
helping? Cavers ARE having fun with it,
too soon to tell if it is working.
2. New BRG By-Law
Proposal - UPDATE
addition to the BRG By-laws was written by Dan
& Marian McConnell. Marian didn't
propose the motion (she can't being chairperson), but she proposed it on Dan's behalf.
McConnell could not be at the 3/16/07 BRG
meeting. It was introduced by Marian McConnell and reads:
BRG members must abide by NSS
ethics, and practice cave safety and conservation. BRG
members who behave in an unsafe and/or disrespectful manner may be considered
for revocation of their membership. Any such behavior will be called to their
attention, (either verbally or in writing) to offer them the opportunity to
correct it. If the behavior continues, they will be given a letter citing specific
behaviors that need to be corrected, along with the consequences of
non-compliance. If they continue to continue the unsafe/disrespectful behavior,
their membership will come up for a vote by BRG
members at a regular meeting within 2 months of the date of the letter. If a
quorum exists and a majority of BRG
members vote to revoke their membership, they will be given a letter to inform
them of the final decision.
Marian & Dan
After some discussion, Marian McConnell proposed
the new By Law.
Pat Sims seconded.
proposal was immediately tabled, will be published in the April CARBIDE DUMP
and will be brought up for discussion at the April 20 BRG
April 20 meeting, the BRG membership
decided to continue to table the proposal until Dan
and Marian could be at a meeting and discuss the by-law proposal.
In addition, Pat
Sims brought up a possible addition to the proposal that he found in the NSS
NSS bylaw reads:
XI. Expulsion of Members
A. A member not exempt from paying
dues shall be automatically dropped for failure to pay.
a two-thirds vote the Board of
Governors may expel a member for disregard of accepted safety or conservation
practice or the rights of a cave owner or for other conduct detrimental to the
Society. A member subject to expulsion is entitled to a private hearing before
the proposed BRG By-Law was tabled until the May 18 BRG meeting.
Dixie Caverns was vandalized by a tourist on 3/31/2007.
Some asshole keyed/carved the word MEXICO in the flowstone rimstone
“magic mirror” in the back of the cave.
It cannot be easily buffed out. The vandalism was brought up at the VAR Grand
Caverns Restoration, and VAR Conservation Co-Chair Meredith Hall Johnson is
going to contact NSS Conservation Chair Jim Werker, get advice on how to repair
the flowstone, and she and BATs Grotto want to come down and help do additional
cleanup at Dixie Caverns.
On the good
side, Dixie Caverns is not longer allowing tourists to touch ANYTHING in the cave (including the mud wedge) are
including a stronger conservation message in their talk (depends on the guide)
and seem somewhat interested in updating their tour spiel.
BRG August 17 meeting conflicts with Vinton Bluegrass Days (again). Parking
is a nightmare. BRG
decided that, instead of having a meeting, then a cave trip, BRG would once again have a POOL PARTY at Spring Run Swim Club on SATURDAY, August 18.
Spring VAR is next weekend.
Cave Hollow Farm (Balfour’s
place in Unus, WV) Sinkhole clean out May 26. 9a - ? Camping, bunks available at
WVACS. See John
for more info
SERA Cave Carnival, Monterey
TN May 31-June 3
Vote for NSS BOG,
and send your ballot in ASAP.
Register for the NCRC Weeklong classes, held in Salem this June!
Registration for the Baltic
Speleological Congress 2007 is now open http://www/speleo.se/bsc
Meeting ended 8:45p.
Minutes submitted by
Mary Sue Socky